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Published on 01/18/06 at 02:11
Updating my previous post - I now have my Tyros 2 for 1 month.
Reminder: Before I had a PSR8000.
I confirm the incredible sound quality but beware, the default settings of the device include a lot of reverb and chorus. Off when all these effects, falls a little enthusiasm. I wonder how the outcome will be when I start mixing with seriously: ie when I start transferring the audio track by track in Cubase. With all these effects, I'm afraid phase shifts.
In this regard, the MIDI settings seem to me very complex ... Finally, it will be a second post.
Guitars and drum kit are extraordinary. The pianos are very good but not great. The electric pianos are fa-bu-lous! Multi Pads are great and numerous. But in practice, it is still missing after all.
The micro level is really impressive: the default settings are beautiful, it's a pleasure to sing 'in it' - a must! For cons, the harmonizer is NULL, only one program can be used: the unison mode. All others are kitsch and robotics at will, without musicality. It is a real regression in relation to psr8000, which offered at least the effects of vocoder of very good quality if not to offer beautiful harmonies. As against the mode pitch correction is efficient and discreet.
attention: the audio on HD is not multi-track, which greatly limits its interest (a kind of luxury which dictaphone). That's all to reach a binz copy a song recorded on a USB key and only the WAV mode is supported. Wide plan for your USB key! But it is good practice anyway, and it can record a quick idea of melody without turning on the PC.
UTILIZATION
The strength of this instrument, and the reason that made me choose from the G70: Entering into agreements step mode. For those (like me) who do not play well is the ability to create very easily again, reading chord names on the score or tablature. On the tyros 2, all agreements are expected, even those with a '/' (that means with a different bass I think) is really the top. For example, I could record the song "You have been loved" by Michael G. - one piece at a complex structure and jazzy that I had never been able to reproduce on any of my previous arrangers!
I will send you a link to my MP3 demos on request.
The large black dot: the arranger. Again, big regression in relation to who owned the PSR8000 mode intelligent arranger 'which brought some humanity to the patterns. Here, none of this, the styles are very beautiful and numerous, but repetitive and boring as the song than a minute. No change or steady progression after alternating major / minor as I had such on my old Roland. Listening to: this net is a robot playing and nobody is fooled. Big big disappointment ...
As for the connection to the PC is unusable. I think other software will emerge to exploit all the possibilities really.
For cons, the direct connection to internet is stirring. With a USB wifi (offered) I go directly to the internet (through my freebox) from the screen of Tyros, without turning on the PC. You can download styles, songs, lessons to learn to play ... it is very easy to use. on the other hand, there's quite a few styles to buy (average 5 euros) and I feel they are very 'types' - for example I downloaded 90powerballad (or something like that) and quelquesoit chords played, it looks like death Bryan Adams (Robin Hood) - it's funny (but is it useful?) on the other hand, this style uses electric guitars beautifully: it is believed.
I have not tried the sampler, but I'm looking forward to!
OVERALL OPINION
Very expensive (3800 euros in this case), I almost regret ...
But the sounds are beautiful, and there are lots of nice features, it's a very fun instrument, I spent hours having fun on it ... it makes you want to learn to play to replace the deficiencies of the arranger who is not up to the rest, unfortunately.
About the G70 and Pa1X: In Valencia, the "music box" where I bought my Tyros, they had the 3 demo side by side: royal to compare.
I found the Pa1X Veillot and completely obsolete: that train! but the sounds are good. The editing step is but the ergonomics are so awful about this function that makes it unusable.
The G70: super compact but very beautiful and very pro, but at first mainly dedicated to the 'live'. The step recording agreements does not exist (just note by note). Piano sounds are very beautiful, but the guitars I prefer the tyros. It seemed that the arranger of the G70 was much more nuanced, human, musical short. But I'm not good enough to use such a thing.
Reminder: Before I had a PSR8000.
I confirm the incredible sound quality but beware, the default settings of the device include a lot of reverb and chorus. Off when all these effects, falls a little enthusiasm. I wonder how the outcome will be when I start mixing with seriously: ie when I start transferring the audio track by track in Cubase. With all these effects, I'm afraid phase shifts.
In this regard, the MIDI settings seem to me very complex ... Finally, it will be a second post.
Guitars and drum kit are extraordinary. The pianos are very good but not great. The electric pianos are fa-bu-lous! Multi Pads are great and numerous. But in practice, it is still missing after all.
The micro level is really impressive: the default settings are beautiful, it's a pleasure to sing 'in it' - a must! For cons, the harmonizer is NULL, only one program can be used: the unison mode. All others are kitsch and robotics at will, without musicality. It is a real regression in relation to psr8000, which offered at least the effects of vocoder of very good quality if not to offer beautiful harmonies. As against the mode pitch correction is efficient and discreet.
attention: the audio on HD is not multi-track, which greatly limits its interest (a kind of luxury which dictaphone). That's all to reach a binz copy a song recorded on a USB key and only the WAV mode is supported. Wide plan for your USB key! But it is good practice anyway, and it can record a quick idea of melody without turning on the PC.
UTILIZATION
The strength of this instrument, and the reason that made me choose from the G70: Entering into agreements step mode. For those (like me) who do not play well is the ability to create very easily again, reading chord names on the score or tablature. On the tyros 2, all agreements are expected, even those with a '/' (that means with a different bass I think) is really the top. For example, I could record the song "You have been loved" by Michael G. - one piece at a complex structure and jazzy that I had never been able to reproduce on any of my previous arrangers!
I will send you a link to my MP3 demos on request.
The large black dot: the arranger. Again, big regression in relation to who owned the PSR8000 mode intelligent arranger 'which brought some humanity to the patterns. Here, none of this, the styles are very beautiful and numerous, but repetitive and boring as the song than a minute. No change or steady progression after alternating major / minor as I had such on my old Roland. Listening to: this net is a robot playing and nobody is fooled. Big big disappointment ...
As for the connection to the PC is unusable. I think other software will emerge to exploit all the possibilities really.
For cons, the direct connection to internet is stirring. With a USB wifi (offered) I go directly to the internet (through my freebox) from the screen of Tyros, without turning on the PC. You can download styles, songs, lessons to learn to play ... it is very easy to use. on the other hand, there's quite a few styles to buy (average 5 euros) and I feel they are very 'types' - for example I downloaded 90powerballad (or something like that) and quelquesoit chords played, it looks like death Bryan Adams (Robin Hood) - it's funny (but is it useful?) on the other hand, this style uses electric guitars beautifully: it is believed.
I have not tried the sampler, but I'm looking forward to!
OVERALL OPINION
Very expensive (3800 euros in this case), I almost regret ...
But the sounds are beautiful, and there are lots of nice features, it's a very fun instrument, I spent hours having fun on it ... it makes you want to learn to play to replace the deficiencies of the arranger who is not up to the rest, unfortunately.
About the G70 and Pa1X: In Valencia, the "music box" where I bought my Tyros, they had the 3 demo side by side: royal to compare.
I found the Pa1X Veillot and completely obsolete: that train! but the sounds are good. The editing step is but the ergonomics are so awful about this function that makes it unusable.
The G70: super compact but very beautiful and very pro, but at first mainly dedicated to the 'live'. The step recording agreements does not exist (just note by note). Piano sounds are very beautiful, but the guitars I prefer the tyros. It seemed that the arranger of the G70 was much more nuanced, human, musical short. But I'm not good enough to use such a thing.