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Nails the Leslie 122 - on guitar but...on full B3 organ? (Neo Instruments - Ventilator)

By Mats Orbation, 18/08/2016
Having used the old Ventilator for quite some time now, I got fed up with it in the end. Some reasons, it shares this with ALL Leslie speaker simulator pedals, so this is not really a stab at Neo instruments as such. Here's my caveats with it, which hasn't been brought up in other reviews, professional, and amateur alike.

1. It is not true bypass, although it says so in the manual. A signal that is "true" bypass should be able to pass through even with the power adaptor removed completely. This doesn't. While this is important to you or not I don't know. To me it is. Especially at that charging price for brand new item.

2. You have to use exclusively their power adaptor. It says nothing on the actual box/pedal what kind of current it needs and neither does the polarity. This has CENTER POSITIVE, and 12v and requires less than < 300 mA it states in the manual, and the actual adapter says it delivers something like 2.5 A (!). Which is my concern, but read on, later on.

3. The remote input didn't even remotely work (ha!) with their own remote pedal.

You had to do a fix. When using it the rotation stopped as if it was a BRAKE on real leslies, that you stopped the rotors but did pass through the speakers anyway. For a product at this price, this should be returned to the manufacturer, and withdrawn instead for modifciation. This was not a warranty defect. Above some serial numbers this had been fixed. Also, their own remote has their own foot switches which still gives a huge mechanical sounding clunk when turning off and on, and when using organ volume pedals and frequent shifts between chorale/tremolo settings on the switch, the clunk can be heard over the music big time and annoying. If there would be any sense to this, release a remote pedal with switches from - like - the Lehle company, or way more silent switches that holds up abuse. Now, I happened to buy the older ones, which nothing was said of, since the former user didn't use the remote.

Now, for the current, voltage and input overload, and gain on normal organ B3 sounds. And especially on a real fully equppied Hammond B3, two manuals, and pedalboard.

The B3 organ has a huge travel volume pedal range, and can put out a tremenduous amount of input at the Ventilator side, especially when using both manuals, full drawbars PLUS (this is important) a bass 16 foot pedal note. When using this setting in any organ it taxes the input on the Ventilator so you have to turn down the master volume so much (or volume pedal) at the other end, that the headroom leaves not much more than raised floor noise. The headroom is too low on this pedal. In order for not getting the overload led to light up you have to turn it down so much that it is useless. On a real Leslie, the tubes takes cares of any kind of "too much" input and distorts and compress in a nice way. This doesn't. It shares this with Lex Strymon, Leslies own pedals too, so it may not be a thing of Neo only.

However, if you had to use their own ugly and unwieldy power adaptor which will scare guitar pedal boards owners off, I think, while they were at it, they could do an analog input that could take and cope with all that power from a B3 and a full keyboard and bass pedalboard onslaught. In order to cope with that you have to use a voltage of maybe 24 v or a 48v and a built in limiter before you go to do A/D converter. Or equip the pedal with an 12AX7 tube or something similar. You can't put this on a regular guitar pedal board and use the wires to power it form a regular Voodo Labs power station, say. But on guitar, the overload don't light up as it is a different beast. It can very well take the signal there.

When the overload led lights up on organ, it sounds butt ugly and has this very unpleasant digital crackly distortion. They need to make a larger headroom or built in a limiter of some sorts. And I have tried all settings on the input/output LO/HIGH knobs at the back. To absolutely no avail.

So, you are limited to using one manual keyboard organ, and no bass pedals at all (not even on the manual keyboard). The DRIVE (distortion) knob on this pedal is just average and resembles nothing of a tube. It does have its uses though.

It's the actual swirl and rotation that makes this pedal the top of the heap.
But competition are piling up. No problems there, but read the other reviews about it, then. Who hails it as the best thing since sliced bacon.

I don't know their new pedals, the Vent II, but they have smaller footprint which makes them even better for guitar pedalboards but still you have to use their unwieldy and uncommon power supply which refutes the purpose in the end. You just have to make a pedal (or at least showing what polarity and current it needs) on the front of the pedal jack, so one can tell. It's bad business conduct to leave such things out, and if the power adapter should fail, (which it actually did once) you can't test it with another, and rule things out when troubleshooting. If it was a Behringer and/or at a Behringer price I would certainly have no quibbles. But at this price I except some more foolproof things. Just a liiitle more! They would most certainly have to resort to common power supplies when doing their new mini Vents and so on, which are geared towards guitarists anyway.

The more it costs, the more right you have to be snarky and prickly about it. The less it cost, the more concessions you can make, and condone more than you condemn.

EDIT: Instruments tested on: Hammond xk-3, xk3c and a friends real, full Hammond B3.
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If you own the TX-5 Classic, you gotta get this too (Tokai - TX-Lower)

By ecceccecc, 18/06/2015
This is the TX-Lower. It's technically a MIDI controller with 61 waterfall keys, but the main difference is that it was designed specially for use with the Tokai TX-5 Classic. They're sold as separated unities; this TX-Lower is an optional complement that works great for those who'd like to have the same feeling as playing the B3 itself, by having two keybeds, each one associated with one set of drawbars.
The keys are just strong enough so you can do palm slides without worrying about anything. I believe that the keybed was made by Fatar, but I can't truly confirm this. The construction is very reliable too, as it's made of MDF and some kind of resistant alloy.
Although it was designed for use with TX-5 Classic, it also works great as a master controller. You can plug it in any kind of instrument, as long as it has a MIDI IN port. It has touch sensitivity, transpose and MIDI channel parameters. There's no panel - that area is deliberately empty, so you can put the TX-5 Classic (or any instrument, module, laptop etc.) above it.
I just think that, for a controller, it's a bit too much heavy and not so easy to transport. There's no ready-made bag or case that can do the task, you have to order a custom-made one. But its reliability compensates that transportation issue - there's no need of special care.
Just to finish this, it's overall a great complement, both as the TX-5's "second keybed" and as a generic MIDI controller.
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To regain its natural Leslie (Neo Instruments - Ventilator II)

By Fooz, 13/11/2014
For a few months I have this little beast and although I'm not disappointed. Having as reference the internal Leslie Hammond SK2 my Leslie simulator and a Korg CX3 1979 version (underwhelming but not bad for the time) and a multitude of video / audio files, I confess that I can not base me in relation to a real Leslie 122 physically heard.

All I can say is that we should not see it as a simulator "Leslie effect" but rather as a Leslie simulator at all. Clearly, the Doppler effect is well reproduced but also significantly changes the sound to be closer to the amplification of the 122 Leslie.

For technology, a wide range of settings available to us with a system of bi-functional knobs where you can access the secondary function by pressing the on button and slow / fast at the same time. So out of the question to access full live. The worries, also, is that it is worthwhile to remember what we did in secondary function because once it returns to the primary position and the knobs are replacement the configuration is no longer visible.

For that price, a button for each setting could be possible I think. Some features such as secondary setting speed or slow the sound level could be useful for fast access. In short, it remains settings at hand that are not necessarily true with Leslie but left to take advantage of technology, so enjoy.

For overdrive, you have to put a little below the limit of the "peak" in terms of its volume to get the best. However, to play Deep Purple, I shall give a little distortion of my SK2 over if this is not enough for his garish.

After some tests with / without my SK2, we notice that the sound is clear, distinct, distinctive and extra bite. One can almost hear the acoustic wood and has a better sense of space. I even used anything Stop mode for Leslie 122 amp simulator.

However, since I am also low on the organ in one of my groups, I have a user on my organ that allows you to play the bass pedals by hand on a section of Lower. This is where I noticed a loss in the low frequencies with the Ventilator. It is therefore necessary to give a boost bass in the sound part.
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News Accessory for Piano & Organ

Neo Instruments launches the Ventilator II

Published on 06/10/14
The new generation of the Neo Instruments Ventilator, which models a Leslie cab in a pedal format, is now available.

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